Several General Questions

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July 27, 2016
SurferJon

Several General Questions

Hi, I have the XF version of Vaultwiki. I have several questions, as I'm just beginning to explore and set my wiki up.

1. Where do I upload images and files? I see there is a "Insert File Tags" button, but I can't upload anything from the box that pops up. Is there another place to upload stuff?
2. Is there a way to upload files from that box? As in, can you upload directly from the editor? It would be very convenient.
3. How do the header tags work? I see that they turn the text into <h2></h2>, but how do I use them to create H3, H4, etc. in the HTML? I tried nesting the H's within each other but it didn't work.
4. Is there a way to use Wordpress's database of media within XF's "Insert File Tags" button? As in, to get VW to use WP's database as well? If not, how difficult would this be for a hired programmer to impliment?
5. Is there a place to modify the editor buttons? As in, the icons, their placement, their order, etc.?
6. I am so confused about Books, Categories, Areas, Islands, etc. Is there a guide somewhere that explains what each does and what their function is? Some seem to be about internal organization, some seem to have to do with URLs, etc. I need to have a full understanding of them so I can figure out how to create my wiki and explain it to others.
7. Where are the discussion comments for a page stored? Are they within a special forum, or are they their own thing? Is there a way to move some of these discussions to actual forums on XF?
8. Is there an overall "map" of all the VW pages one can access? I'm finding it very hard to see the "overall" image of VW. I keep finding new pages, features, etc. It would be very helpful to see a map of everything to help explore all of VW's features.

Thank you so much! Love all the work you've put into VW!
July 27, 2016
pegasus
1. In AdminCP > Home > Options / Setup > Options > VaultWiki: Content Types, make sure that Maximum Disk Usage for All Attachments (MB) is not a very low number. You will only be able to upload if an wiki area exists that allows uploads and if this maximum disk usage setting exceeds your current disk usage.

2. Yes, see #1.

3. The H tag works like H=1, H=2, H=3, H=4, H=5, or H=6. Do not nest things in the H tag. It is for the heading title text only.

4. There is not currently a tabbed interface within that button, but I suppose it would still be possible for a savvy developer to extend the vw_UI_Assign_Attach_View class to allow for Wordpress media choices. It would require a lot of *tricky* custom Javascript work though. The File Browser does not offer a standardized way to do this, but using tabs and allowing for a unified interface of various media tags is definitely something we are considering.

5. You can modify the wiki editor button icons and how the buttons are grouped. There is not really a way to specifically change the order. The button settings are in XenForo's AdminCP > Home > BB Code & Smilies > Custom BB Codes.

6. Some of the differences are only subtle, but there are differences.
- Areas are the main structural hierarchy, used for permissions, URL hierarchy. It is a 2D hierarchy system. Every page is in exactly one area. Reference: https://www.vaultwiki.org/pages/Help...VW4:Wiki-Areas
- Categories are a tagging system. Every page can appear in multiple categories. Reference: https://www.vaultwiki.org/pages/Help...-to-Categories
- Feeds are for making lists. Every page can appear in multiple feeds. Reference: https://www.vaultwiki.org/pages/Help...ction-to-Feeds
- Books are for linking separate pages that are best read in a specific order, like user manuals. Reference: https://www.vaultwiki.org/pages/Help...ction-to-Books
- If you found the phrase "Island" anywhere, please let me know where to find it, because this phrase is now a bug. The correct term for this is "Anonymous page." According to the AdminCP:
  
  Quote:
  
  The URLs for Anonymous pages don't include the page's title. In general, they do not interact with other wiki pages and cannot be linked to without knowing the page's full URL. Since wiki pages cannot usually share titles, this is useful if you want to use wiki functionality for a page but don't want to use up that title.
7. Discussions are their own thing. There is not currently a way to move them back and forth between actual forums, but we are working on it.

8. Depending on various factors, a wiki by nature is 3-dimensional or higher. Thus, it is not really possible to flatten it into a map, except for the main structural areas, unless we always pick a specific wiki page and generate a partial map from that page alone. We are toying with some other navigation ideas, but right now they are just ideas. If you want to imagine what a wiki looks like, see this image:
https://www.vaultwiki.org/wiki_asset.php?pid=574
July 27, 2016
SurferJon

Thank you for the detailed reply, Pegasus!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pegasus

1. In AdminCP > Home > Options / Setup > Options > VaultWiki: Content Types, make sure that Maximum Disk Usage for All Attachments (MB) is not a very low number. You will only be able to upload if an wiki area exists that allows uploads and if this maximum disk usage setting exceeds your current disk usage.

2. Yes, see #1.

I see no options for image size usage: http://imgur.com/pdCqU3J

Quote:

Originally Posted by pegasus

The File Browser does not offer a standardized way to do this, but using tabs and allowing for a unified interface of various media tags is definitely something we are considering.

Oh, so you are considering implementing Wordpress media integration? If so, that's awesome! If you were to do it, do you know how long it would take to implement? I only ask so I know whether or not I should hire a programmer or if I should just wait for you to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pegasus

7. Discussions are their own thing. There is not currently a way to move them back and forth between actual forums, but we are working on it.

Oh no! This is probably the #1 reason I bought VW. Allowing some of the threads to be within actual forums would really help bring activity to the forums and would truly make VW and XF integrated. Ideally when you scroll down a wiki page to see the discussion, you would see the forum pagecrumbs of like Home -> Forums -> Specific Forum -> Thread, followed by the discussion comments. This way people know there's a forum, can see what forum the topic is hosted in, etc. With how I see it's set up now, I do really like how you've made it its own thing (as you wouldn't want every wiki page having a topic on the forums), but having the option to host some of the discussions within actual forums would definitely be ideal since it's like you're creating forum threads with actual content. You said you're working on this feature -- do you know when you might implement it?

Thank you so much Pegasus for all your hard work and dedication!
July 27, 2016
pegasus

If you are not seeing the Maximum Disk Usage setting, you may be using an older version of VaultWiki that does not offer it. In your version, it is possible that there was a bug that prevented the "Upload New File" button from appearing, or it is possible that there are no areas that allow the "Attachment" type under Wiki > Structures > Area Manager > [edit] > Content-Related Options > Can Contain Content-Types. By default, the System area should allow all content-types.

You have misunderstood me on a couple of the points:

- We have not considered Wordpress media integration specifically, but we have considered making it easier for developers to offer other choices of files within the File Browser. However, there is not much of a developer community for VaultWiki at this time, so I'm not sure such an obscure dev tool would be a wise investment of time right now.

- For discussions, what I was referring to was a Move tool, which would allow you to move some wiki discussions to a forum or move a forum thread to a wiki page, and do the discussion<->thread conversion, if users ever post in the wrong place. For example, if you have a wiki page about your site's founders, and someone starts a discussion on that page about their favorite ice cream, the tool would let you move that discussion to a general topics forum where it is more suited. There are currently no plans to embed forum threads in the wiki. If you would like to request this feature, I encourage you to add it here: https://www.vaultwiki.org/projectpos...typeid=feature
July 27, 2016
SurferJon

So I just upgraded to the latest version but I still can't find where to upload anything. The setting you mentioned is almost 40 GB. When I click the "Insert File" button I see that on this website there's a "New Attachment" button, but on mine doesn't have it. What am I missing?
July 28, 2016
SurferJon

Couple more questions...

1. How do you use the table code to make <th></th> for the table heads? Is there a comprehensive guide out there that explains all the code you can use?

2. Is there a way to list top contributors for a page in the sidebar for that page?

3. Can individual pages be locked to only be edited by certain user groups? Can individual pages only be visible to certain user groups too?

4. Do you HAVE to use "[wiki / wiki]" for links? (Brackets removed since it's showing up blank in this post.) Is there a way to change it to [[]] like Mediawiki?

Thank you Pegasus!

EDIT: Also, I found "island" on the edit page under "Treat this page as a..."
page?do=edit
July 28, 2016
pegasus

For uploads, check your areas in the Area Manager. It is possible that there are no areas that allow the "Attachment" type under Wiki > Structures > Area Manager > [edit] > Content-Related Options > Can Contain Content-Types. It is also possible that you have not granted yourself permission in the wiki permissions, Attachment Permissions > Can create new attachments.

1. Use ! instead of | to start a cell and it will be a th

2. Not currently, but I welcome you to request this.

3. You can lock any page by going to its Options > Protect from Further Changes tab. You can lock it so only admins can edit it, but if you want other usergroups too, choose "Edit Protection". Now a user will only be able to edit if their usergroup has permission to protect (lock/unlock) the page.

There is not currently an option to allow different users/groups for each page or without also letting them lock/unlock the page, although this has been requested.

4. There is an option to turn on [[]] like MediaWiki, but it makes things very slow. I do not recommend it. It's in Home > Options / Setup > Options > VaultWiki: Miscellaneous > Enable Support for Legacy Wiki Syntax.