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cheers, will run a full conv again tomorrow
Pegasus any update on VW4 like you said in September there where holdups but its now almost 2 months later and still nothing. There seems to be an Alpha build to see on errors reported but in a few months it only seems that minimum work was done or that the tracker is not updated. Its getting later and later but no solid time frame is given when the beta will be released or even the RC version.
I have to admit I'm disappointed that we haven't heard anything. I need vaultwiki for my site but if all updates stop I don't know if I would renew again.
I removed VaultWiki from my forum recently. Sorry, I can't wait forever.
Im getting worried about Vaultwiki4.
If it continues like this i will be better off using a other solution its been weeks for good solid updates and if they say dates it does not mean anything at all because it seems that every time something happens. Going to see if using a normal wiki is possible almost waiting a year on VaultWiki4 now and still nothing to show for.
I recently switched from mediawiki to vaultwiki, although i have had some major issues converting everything (i wont recomment converting pages if you have a large mediawiki install with loads of extensions) I must say i am pretty happy with vautwiki compared to mediawiki.
the most important thing for me was the flawless integration with vbulletin. VW does that very well.
I dont see a reason why you would "wait" for vw4 while this version is just fine.
The only thing where i am worried about is that in two months i got soo much custom code.. what will happen once it comes :)
Many features that I really need will be in VW4.
Most of those are integration functions, like reputation for wiki edits, better notifications, suggest post to wiki, etc. Such features would be of great benefit to my community and to wiki use on my site. If VW4 has hit some major roadblock or if it is not coming, then I need to consider alternative options, like custom development.
VaultWiki 4 is still coming. It has not hit a major roadblock or something like that. I've been hesitant about giving dates because I know it is very difficult to judge once all things are considered, and I tend to be wrong.
There are many factors involved, but as I've mentioned in the past, development is slow because it's a completely separate product branch. All the code (so far) is new. We don't have the resources to develop multiple branches at the same time at the rate our customers have become accustomed to, and this is something we've had to deal with for the past year. It's one of the reasons for the upcoming discontinuation of the Standard License with VaultWiki 4.
Whenever we get a lot of bug reports for VaultWiki 3, it takes time away from 4 (and we usually have to spend additional time re-engineering the changes for 4) - we can't just ignore bug reports. This is not to blame anyone for posting bug reports, it's a major part of the formula that keeps the product moving forward, but it's a huge factor.
As I mentioned last time, VaultWiki 4 is close to Alpha release. I'm not sure why, but it seems like people believe there is no activity in the VaultWiki 4 milestones on the site. This is just not true. If you're looking at Active Issues, you may not see much activity, because this is a list of items we haven't gotten to yet. But if you compare that list to Total Issues (https://www.vaultwiki.org/milestones/9/list/), you'll see that we are indeed making headway daily. I feel like I've mentioned this before, but if you're ever in doubt about development activity, just look at that list, or the tracker in general.
We've tried to have more transparency about where we are in the process using the tracker and additionally on the forum home page. There's a widget "VaultWiki 4 Progress" that mentions the feature we're currently focusing on that day, and additionally, how many new files have been added to the product between VaultWiki 3 and VaultWiki 4. If it's hard to comprehend, once you finally see the file system in the /vault, you'll realize that VaultWiki 4 is just immense.
Let me also mention that VaultWiki 4 will probably disappoint some people initially with the Alpha 1 release. It's mainly a back-end update, so you won't notice many visible changes or new features except with some content types that required a new architecture (like redirects or attachments). That doesn't mean new features won't be coming shortly afterward, but we're trying to keep the first release as simple as possible since the code will be almost completely new. You can get an idea of what's in Alpha 1, again by just having a look at the tracker.
Of the ones Alpha1 mentioned, VaultWiki 4.0.0 Alpha 1 does include (already) better notifications - for both moderators and subscribed users.
For users waiting for VaultWiki 4 to switch from vBulletin to XenForo or IPB, keep in mind that you can always run both side-by-side until your platform is supported. It would be akin to running a separate standalone wiki for the time being - you wouldn't have the added difficulty of trying to find a way to export the data without losing your current wiki configuration, or the hassle of reposting everything.
If some of the phrases in the milestone were confusing I have changed the phrases:
'active' to 'unresolved'
'completed' to 'resolved'
Well, as you know (and you are active on vb.org as well) no solution is per se 100% of your "needs" and alsway need some kind of modification. And the strong part of vbulletin is the whole vb.org community.
I also think VW lacks of some functionality and flexibility, but that doesnt hold me back on using it, or indeed what you say: custom development (MODS!) .. i have rewritten lots of stuff in VW to fill my needs
One thing i really miss here on VW is the "vb.org" community.. other VW users creating mods for VW.. share your cutom VW code or ideas with the rest of the users.
Thats why i asked for Modwriting guidelines recently.
I believe the power lies in the community with mods using the VW framework
Thanks for the update Pegasus. It had been so long I was worried the project had gone under. I'll keep waiting.
It's very big project and I know that many of us are impatient. But, on the other hand, I think that it is more important that project is done well than fast.
I have working VW3, it works fine and I could wait for VW4.
If only you could post more news, what's happening, things like that? I mean, more things in words that would mean more to us all. I know that tracker shows updates, daily activity, but news updates would be probably appreciated from all.
And yes, I'll stick with VW, it's best wiki for vB there is.