htaccess confusion

i'm slightly confused by the instructions on working with htaccess. right now the wiki is installed inside the forum itself like so www.site.com/forum/wiki/

i would like the wiki to be located at www.site.com/wiki/

The instructions aren't very clear on how to make this possible. it has two scenarios, those being:

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Case #1
Your forum resides at http://www.example.com/forums/
Your wiki resides at http://www.example.com/wiki/

Case #2
Your wiki resides in your forum root.

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for case 1 is this implying that the wiki is actually installed in its own folder, and if so how is this possible? the install process won't even display when the wiki is in any folder other than the forum root. this is where the confusion comes in, do you understand?

i modified the vaultwiki server settings baseurl to what i would like it to be, however i need clarification on how exactly to make this happen?

You don't need to install the wiki in a separate folder. If you followed the install instructions and physically uploaded the files to the forum root, this is correct.

Case #1 shows that you can make your wiki appear in /wiki/ using htaccess, even though you installed it in another directory.

When working with htaccess this kind of thing is typical, where pages "appear" at URLs that do not match their physical location.

thanks. i got this working and the /wiki/ works correctly, but a new problem has cropped up. when browsing to site.com/wiki/ a special page comes up with the vaultlogo.gif image. ideally i would like this to display a wiki index. is there a way to control what page displays here?

You can add a rule like:

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RewriteRule ^wiki/$ wiki/Index-Page [L,R=301,QSA]

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Hello!

I post here, as to not start a new thread... yet please open a new one if it is better suited.

My issue (I believe) has to do with the .htaccess file.
I have read back and forth all I could, yet I still have confusion.

The doubt/question comes into play when reading the instruction's Wiki Under the Forum Root article.

If I have "Simplify Wiki Links" enabled, I have to add all these 3 lines?

#1
If you have enabled Simplify Wiki Links, add the following line:
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RewriteRule ^showwiki.php?VAR=(.*)$ FILE/$1 [L,R=301]

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#2
If you have Simplify Wiki Links enabled, add the following line:
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RewriteRule ^FILE/DEFAULT:(.*)$ FILE/$1 [L,R=301]

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#3
If you have Simplify Wiki Links enabled, add the following line:
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RewriteRule ^FILE/(.*)?$ showwiki_proxy.php [L,QSA]

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So I add all three lines?

Here is some more information that might help illuminate the problem:

I believe I correctly created a forum for the wiki, which can be seen at this link (because it has the VaultWiki icon on the forum's name).

If we go into the wiki forum, we get this page.

Now, I am able to "create" new threads... yet when I click on one to see/read it, there's a 'server timeout error' on part of the browser.
To be more exact, this is the message FireFox provides:

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Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

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Am I missing something big?

Thanks =)

You need all three lines. The instructions have them separated because they need to be placed in a specific order. I don't know how to be any clearer in the instructions than saying "add" this to what you already have.

You can get an infinite redirect if your htaccess settings don't match your vBulletin settings as explained in the instructions. It mentions at least 3 different vBulletin settings to refer to, OR

If you are running vBSEO 3.2.0 or earlier (the current version is 3.3.0), Simplify Wiki Links won't work at all. You will need to update vBSEO first, or disable Simplify Wiki Links.

Hello pegasus, thank you for the reply.

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Originally Posted by pegasus

You need all three lines. The instructions have them separated because they need to be placed in a specific order.

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Ok, I added all three of them.

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RewriteEngine on

RewriteBase /forums/
RewriteRule ^showwiki.php?VAR=(.*)$ FILE/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^FILE/DEFAULT:(.*)$ FILE/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^FILE/(.*)?$ showwiki_proxy.php [L,QSA]

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Originally, there were four other lines in that .htaccess file.
I left them there, and placed VaultWiki's lines before those.
(reason being that the RewriteEngine on line was already present in the .htaccess file)

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Originally Posted by pegasus

I don't know how to be any clearer in the instructions than saying "add" this to what you already have.

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Please excuse me for this... I just have no idea what I'm doing here.

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Originally Posted by pegasus

You can get an infinite redirect if your htaccess settings don't match your vBulletin settings as explained in the instructions. It mentions at least 3 different vBulletin settings to refer to, OR

If you are running vBSEO 3.2.0 or earlier (the current version is 3.3.0), Simplify Wiki Links won't work at all. You will need to update vBSEO first, or disable Simplify Wiki Links.

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We're not running vBSEO.
I'll keep on searching to see what I can do. :)

Thank you for your help and attention!
Very much appreciated.

Regards,
-- AJ
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Your .htaccess settings were appropriate (you used the right lines), but incorrect -- you need to replace some of the text as explained on the first page of Configuring .htaccess:
FILE - your vBulletin setting for "Wiki File Name"
VAR - your vBulletin setting for "REQUEST Title Variable"
DEFAULT - the value at CES VaultWiki > Namespace Manager > Namespace Functions > Default namespace.

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Originally Posted by pegasus

Your .htaccess settings were appropriate (you used the right lines), but incorrect -- you need to replace some of the text as explained on the first page of Configuring .htaccess:
FILE - your vBulletin setting for "Wiki File Name"
VAR - your vBulletin setting for "REQUEST Title Variable"
DEFAULT - the value at CES VaultWiki > Namespace Manager > Namespace Functions > Default namespace.

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Thank you for the quick reply pegasus :)

I checked what you mentioned, and sure enough, that was it.
My apologies, as I did read over that... my mind must be kind of zoned-out.

For reference, here is what I ended up with:

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RewriteEngine on

RewriteBase /forums/
RewriteRule ^showwiki.php?title=(.*)$ showwiki.php/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^showwiki.php/ComoEstaEso+com+wiki:(.*)$ showwiki.php/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^showwiki.php/(.*)?$ showwiki_proxy.php [L,QSA]

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I reinstalled VaultWiki (which is actually very easy thanks to the install script).
Now I'm able to see the wiki forum fine, here at this link.



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At the moment, I have a small hiccup.
I'm checking my settings to see if I missed something... this is the message I'm getting when "Previewing" or trying to "Post" a new article.

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404 Not Found
The requested URL /forums/showwiki/test1?do=edit does not exist.

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As soon as I find out what I have set wrong, I'll post here for reference.

Thank you for your support and help!! :D

-- AJ
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Wherever you have showwiki.php/ (with the slash) it should be showwiki/

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Originally Posted by pegasus

Wherever you have showwiki.php/ (with the slash) it should be showwiki/

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Hello again pegasus,
Thank you for the ton of patience with my installation.
It is very appreciated. :)

Per your suggestions, my current three lines are:

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RewriteRule ^showwiki.php?title=(.*)$ showwiki/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^showwiki/ComoEstaEso+com+wiki:(.*)$ showwiki/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^showwiki/(.*)?$ showwiki_proxy.php [L,QSA]

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With this in place, I make a small test article, and when I click on "Preview" or "Submit", I get a

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404 Not Found
The requested URL /forums/showwiki/test2?do=edit does not exist.

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Yet, if I take that address in the address-bar, and exchange
/showwiki/ with /showwiki.php/ and click enter, I get a message that states:

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vBulletin Message
Sorry! This forum is not accepting new posts.

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To be clear, my procedure for a new article is:
0- click on the wikiForums link
1- click on "New Thread"
2- type in a title (like test1)
3- click "Start Editing"
4- write two or three words (longer than the minimum for a post)
5- click "Post New Article" or "Preview Article"

After clicking on #5 is that I get the 404 message.

I've played around the the ".php", and I checked the CES VaultWiki settings in vBulletin Options --> VaultWiki: Server Settings and at VaultWiki: General Settings.
Yet I still don't find what I have wrong.

Clearly, we're on the right path.

Please reply whenever you can... I'm sure you have 3 dozen things going on on your side.
Thank you for the help!!

Regards,
-- AJ
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You can get the "Sorry! This forum is not accepting new posts" message if the forum you created for "wikiForums" has one of these settings:

• Act as Forum: No
• Forum is Open: No

Note that both of these settings must be "Yes" in order to post to any forum.

Also, please post your "VaultWiki: Server Settings" for review.

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Originally Posted by pegasus

You can get the "Sorry! This forum is not accepting new posts" message if the forum you created for "wikiForums" has one of these settings:

• Act as Forum: No
• Forum is Open: No

Note that both of these settings must be "Yes" in order to post to any forum.

Also, please post your "VaultWiki: Server Settings" for review.

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Hello! :)

Here is the update:
In vB Admin CP --> CES VAult Wiki --> Namespace Manager
Then on #6, which is the wiki, I clicked on "Forum"
On "Posting Options" I have:

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Act as Forum (Will act as category if no)
YES

Forum is Active (Will not appear if set to no, but remains accessible if the forum's URL is known)
YES

Forum is Open (Set this to 'No' to prevent any new posts being made in this forum)
YES

Index New Posts in Search Engine (Setting this to 'No' will prevent anyone from being able to search in this forum)
YES

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Here is the .htaccess file that is in use at the moment:
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Here is the Vault Wiki: Server Settings

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Turn on the Wiki?
YES

Wiki Base URL
http://www.comoestaeso.com/forums


Filename of the Wiki PHP file
showiki


REQUEST Title Variable
title

Replace Spaces in URLs?
+ (plus)

Simplify Wiki Links?
YES

Enable Link Caching?
YES

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Here is the .htaccess file as it is on the server at the moment:

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RewriteEngine on

RewriteBase /forums/
RewriteRule ^showwiki.php?title=(.*)$ showwiki/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^showwiki/ComoEstaEso+com+wiki:(.*)$ showwiki/$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule ^showwiki/(.*)?$ showwiki_proxy.php [L,QSA]


AddHandler fcgid-script .php

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^comoestaeso.com$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.comoestaeso.com$
RewriteRule ^/?$ "http\:\/\/www\.ComoEstaEso\.com\/cms" [R=301,L]

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Thank you very much for the help... I am really trying to figure out what I am doing wrong over here.

Your help is much appreciated!

Can you get the wiki to work without using any RewriteRules and using the default VaultWiki: Server Settings values? that is, Simplify Wiki Links as "No".

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Originally Posted by pegasus

Can you get the wiki to work without using any RewriteRules and using the default VaultWiki: Server Settings values? that is, Simplify Wiki Links as "No".

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Hello Pegasus,

Yes!!
Removed the three lines you mentioned.

And now it is working. Here is the test page that was just created.

What do you suggest?
Do I use it like that?

I was searching around the server, and saw that the Joomla! part of the site has its own .htaccess file.

Could this cause the problem?

Joomla!'s .htaccess file is inside
public_html/cms/.htaccess

vB's and VaultWiki's is inside
public_html/forums/.htaccess

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Originally Posted by creativeLiquid

Removed the three lines you mentioned.

And now it is working. Here is the test page that was just created.

What do you suggest?
Do I use it like that?

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It is perfectly okay to use it like that if you are okay with it.

If you absolutely must use simple URLs, I would recommend allowing someone with more experience manipulate your .htaccess - sometimes, especially with multiple .htaccess files, this can be confusing even for experienced users. You can always send me a PM about doing this so we can rule out possible conflicts with Joomla and other products you may be using.

But like I said, this is not a required step to use the wiki - it is about getting several advanced options to work on your server, if you want to use them.

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Originally Posted by pegasus

It is perfectly okay to use it like that if you are okay with it.

If you absolutely must use simple URLs, I would recommend allowing someone with more experience manipulate your .htaccess - sometimes, especially with multiple .htaccess files, this can be confusing even for experienced users. You can always send me a PM about doing this so we can rule out possible conflicts with Joomla and other products you may be using.

But like I said, this is not a required step to use the wiki - it is about getting several advanced options to work on your server, if you want to use them.

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Hello Pegasus,

Thank you very much for all your help!
The wiki is working perfectly now.

We'll re-check out settings in the future... as we will probably be removing the Joomla part of the site soon. So there is no need to fret over integration with it.

Thank you very much!
I'll write a Vault Wiki review for CES soon! :) :)