Issue: protection questions

This is really strange. I distinctly remember a verbose description of each one being there, but I can't find it now in any version.

Fixed in the next release.

Move/Rename Prevention: Cannot be moved or renamed
Edit Prevention: Cannot be edited, moved, or renamed
Admins-only Protection: Modifiable only by Admin users
Collaboration Prevention: Modifiable only by the author and allowed users

Thanks!

Question -- for "Collaboration Prevention", how does the author "allow" other users into having permissions? When I change protection to "Collaboration" for a page (on vB4.2.2 + VW4 gamma 4), I see no control anywhere to afford for this? No way to add or remove other people into the "collaboration"?

Have I missed something?

Sorry - another question?

If an author engages "Collaboration" protection on their page, I find that not even super admins can do anything to the page. This seems problematic, no?

Collaboration-protection is currently original-author only + users with wiki-moderator permission "can edit". The option is designed to disable collaboration, not to create one.

Ah, I misinterpreted, apologies.

However, given a page with Collaboration Protection (authored and set by someone other than me), when I go in as the super admin who also as all "Wiki Moderator" permissions* set to "Yes" (confirming I have every variety of "can edit" permissions as "Yes"), I find I still can't do anything to page besides see it? Is this as intended?

edit: I mean by this, I went into Permissions->Moderators and gave myself "Yes" to everything (and with "Use Custom Moderator Permissions" checked)

What if you give your primary Usergroup that permission under Permissions > Usergroups? If this works, but Moderators doesn't then there may be a problem with the moderator system.

That is the case. Specifically:

I am the super admin of the vBulletin site, and in the "Administrators" primary group.
In VW, all permissions for that group are "Yes", specifically including all varieties of "Can Edit..."
Additionally, my particular user account is setup as a Wiki Moderator, with "Use Custom Moderator Permissions" as "Yes", and every permission (incl. "Cant Edit..." variations) set to "Yes".

... still, I cannot do anything to pages authored by others, who set "Collaboration Prevention" on; such pages become effectively read-only to me.

This seems like either a problematic design (precluding admins/mods from doing their thing) .. or .. a bug?

I actually have the same setup here:
Usergroups > Administrators > All "Moderator Permissions" = Not Set (No)
Moderators > pegasus > All "Moderator Permissions" = Yes

I added "Collaboration protection" to a wiki page that was started by a different user. I am still able to edit this page as expected.

Go into the vBulletin ACP and check that Usergroups section for the Wiki Moderators usergroup. Make sure the usergroup exists, that it is not joinable, and that it is NOT a "banned" group (I believe banned groups are similar to infraction groups, so that permission = "Yes" == non-banned permission = "Never").

"Never" overrides any "Yes" permission that you may have from any other group. If your user has secondary usergroups, make sure those secondary groups don't have "Never" values. "Never" is really only needed if you are in a banned group or a specific user is banned.

Make sure your user is a Moderator of "All areas and sub-areas", and that you are not also a moderator of the specific area that has problems. If you are a moderator of the specific area, those rules will override the "All areas" rules.

Thanks for the additional insight, however nothing is amiss as such, and still I experience the problem.

Details:

Wiki Moderators usergroup in ACP:
exists... check
not joinable ... check
not a banned group... check

My admin account is not a member of any additional groups. Only the "Administrators" group, as the primary group.
No where in any VW settings applicable to my account or my group is there a "Never", or a "No".
My VW account is configured as a Moderator of "All Areas and sub-areas".
For all Areas: the "Administrators" group has all VW permissions set to "Yes".

Still: the problem I described. My site admin user, as above, cannot edit or otherwise manipulate a page set to "Collaboration Protection" by another user, on a page they authored.

?

I think I will only be able to get to the bottom of this with access to an account that has this issue. I've added a free service to your account, which you can find under the Members tab. If you can fill it out, I'll see what I can find. Please also make sure to include a link to a page that is not editable due to collaboration protection.

I went in and filled that out. Not sure if it took, it just went to a blank version of the forum after I clicked Submit, and I don't see what I saw on the Members tab before to even get there to begin with?

Anyhow, thanks in advance. I can PM the details you'll need to get into my site, along with the example case details, if necessary.

Fixed.

Could you tell me if it was something I had misconfigured, or was it a code change or something?

A code change was needed. It was a small change, but it had to do with a difference in our permission configs that was not handled properly (I think yours - All Yes - would be more common anyway).