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    Issue: How to do translation?

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    1. issueid=3387 October 9, 2013 12:53 AM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      How to do translation?
      What is the proper way to use the Wiki to do translation?

      Hello

      I want to use my Wiki as a tool for collaborative translation. How should I do it exactly? Should I create books/pages in English and then let people write the Chinese translation right within the same book, or do I create a separate book in Chinese?

      Dustin
    Issue Details
    Issue Number 3387
    Issue Type Task
    Project VaultWiki 4.x Series
    Category Books / Chapters
    Status Rejected
    Priority 6 - Dev-Related Tasks
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    1. October 9, 2013 9:38 AM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      Usually you create a separate book in Chinese.

      1. Make sure both English and Chinese languages exist in the VaultWiki Admin Panel > Languages > Language Manager. For the icon field, enter "cn.png" for Chinese.
      2. Visit your book in English and you should see the flags of US and China at the top. Click the Chinese flag to begin your translation.
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    2. October 11, 2013 6:53 AM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      I tried to click on the question mark for translation. When I tried to create the translation page I get this error

      There were some problems with your submission:
      vw_path_in_use_error
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    3. October 11, 2013 6:57 AM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      I also get this error vw_invalid_area
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    4. October 11, 2013 12:34 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      The "path in use error" usually means that the title you chose for the new page is too similar to an existing page. If the titles are too similar, they would have the same URL, which would make it impossible for your users to access at least one of them. Change the title slightly to avoid this issue.

      If you get the "invalid area" error, that means that either you didn't select a location to save the translation, or that there is something wrong with the area you picked. Are you able to visit the area normally?
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    5. October 11, 2013 12:34 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      The "path in use error" usually means that the title you chose for the new page is too similar to an existing page. If the titles are too similar, they would have the same URL, which would make it impossible for your users to access at least one of them. Change the title slightly or use a different Prefix on one of them to avoid this issue.

      If you get the "invalid area" error, that means that either you didn't select a location to save the translation, or that there is something wrong with the area you picked. Are you able to visit the area normally?
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    6. October 14, 2013 4:32 AM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      I am not quite clear what the benefit is of having the translated version on a separate page/book from the original language version. This adds more complexity and makes it harder for students to study and compare the translated and the original language. Can I have the translations done on the same pages/books/categories as the original language? Why do people separate them in Wikis?

      Dustin
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    7. October 14, 2013 4:34 AM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      I translated a book and it said it saved, but when I go back and check I don't see my translation
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    8. October 14, 2013 9:40 AM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      Does the language you translated it for have an icon that appears?
      The icon should light up when the translation is ready. If you click it, it will show the translated version. If you click the icon for the original language, you can switch back.

      If the icon doesn't light up, go to the Options tab and select Translate This Page. Make sure the other version is selected. If you clicked a flag or used this form to create the translation, it should be selected automatically. If this didn't happen, there might be a bug.
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    9. October 14, 2013 9:40 AM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      Does the language you translated it for have an icon that appears?
      The icon should light up when the translation is ready. If you click it, it will show the translated version. If you click the icon for the original language, you can switch back.

      If the icon doesn't light up, go to the Options tab and select Translate This Page. Make sure the other version is selected. If you clicked a flag or used this form to create the translation, it should be selected automatically. If this didn't happen, there might be a bug.
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    10. October 14, 2013 7:45 PM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      Yes, there is an icon for the Chinese language. The original is English and the smaller icon is for Chinese. When I click it it goes to the new page but my translation does not show up. And this problem also exists on the original book. When I try to edit it it says my changes were made but when I go back the changes are not there.

      Dustin
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    11. October 14, 2013 8:33 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      When you say "it goes to the new page but my translation does not show up"

      Do you mean that the Chinese icon loads a page that has the correct name, but the content of the page is empty or has the default/placeholder message? Or does it contain the original (untranslated) text?
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    12. October 14, 2013 8:33 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      When you say "it goes to the new page but my translation does not show up"

      Do you mean that the Chinese icon loads a page that has the correct name, but the content of the page is empty or has the default/placeholder message? Or does it contain the original (untranslated) text?
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    13. October 14, 2013 10:03 PM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      The Chinese icon loads a page that has the correct name but the content of the page has the default placeholder message.

      Dustin
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    14. October 15, 2013 9:58 AM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      I have added a free service to your Members tab on our site. Please fill it out so that I can have a look and diagnose this issue.
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    15. October 17, 2013 3:55 AM
      dustinmattison dustinmattison is offline
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      Is there a way to have the translated page show as a sub-page of the English page? Or is there a way to show the relationship between the original language and the translated version? Currently, when I translate something there is nothing that shows that it is a translation of an English version of the same thing. There should be some way to link the two when you do a translation. Right now all of the pages show up in the list, both translated and original language with no grouping by language or by original and translated versions.
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