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    1. Welcome to VaultWiki.org, home of the wiki add-on for vBulletin and XenForo!

      VaultWiki allows your existing forum users to collaborate on creating and managing a site's content pages. VaultWiki is a fully-featured and fully-supported wiki solution for vBulletin and XenForo.

      The VaultWiki Team encourages you to join our community of forum administrators and check out VaultWiki for yourself.

    Issue: Google in depth results for VW articles

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    1. issueid=3277 August 7, 2013 7:14 AM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      Google in depth results for VW articles

      Often when you're searching on Google for a person or organization name, or other broad topic, you'll find a block of search results labeled "In-depth articles." These results provide high-quality content to help you learn about or explore a subject.
      Vaultwiki articles should be highlighted in Google as Indepth articles. This can easily be done by implementing the following schema.org microdata:
      https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/3280182
      http://schema.org/Article
    Issue Details
    Issue Number 3277
    Issue Type Feature
    Project VaultWiki 4.x Series
    Category Search
    Status Implemented
    Priority 8 - Major Features / Enhancements
    Suggested Version 4.0.0 Beta 4
    Implemented Version 4.0.0 Gamma 7
    Milestone VaultWiki 4 Gamma X
    Software DependencyAny
    License TypePaid
    Votes for this feature 1
    Votes against this feature 1
    Attachments 0
    Assigned Users (none)
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    1. June 23, 2014 12:33 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      This required updating the wiki on vBulletin 3 & 4 to HTML 5. Note that this change will result in HTML on wiki pages not validating under vBulletin, since some of vBulletin 4's default style (and lots of vBulletin 3) used techniques which are not allowed in HTML 5. VaultWiki tries to convert some of these when they occur on wiki pages, but others are left alone. From what I can tell, the conflicts seem to fallback to HTML 4 behavior fine.

      This change has the added benefit of creating more meaningful HTML outlines on wiki pages, which certain crawlers and software use to determine the importance of different sections of content.

      Switching to HTML 5 accounts for most of the development time of this feature.

      Still working on adding the most relevant microdata properties to pages.
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    2. June 23, 2014 8:23 PM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      good news!
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    3. June 23, 2014 8:39 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      Note that existing validation tools (including Google and Yandex) appear to have parsers that are not up-to-date with HTML5+microdata spec. I am specifically concerned with this snippet of the spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/microdata/#attr-itemtype):
      The itemtype attribute, if specified, must have a value that is an unordered set of unique space-separated tokens that are case-sensitive, each of which is a valid URL that is an absolute URL, and all of which are defined to use the same vocabulary. The attribute's value must have at least one token.

      The item types of an item are the tokens obtained by splitting the element's itemtype attribute's value on spaces.
      Which basically says an element can have an attribute itemtype="A B", as long as A and B are both from the same microdata vocabulary (like schema.org), so that the itemscope would gain itemprop properties from both A and B. However, none of the validation tools seem to be aware of this, default to itemtype="A", and return an error that "A B" is an invalid itemtype.

      Even the alternate method provided by itemprop="additionalType" does not seem to work as designed as far as the tools are concerned. It does not actually apply any properties of the specified type.

      It remains to be seen if this prevents any of the metadata from being read and cached as search results by Google and other sites. Nevertheless, it seems that the bug is with Google's tool (and other tools), since they are not capable of handling some variations of valid itemtype attributes.
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    4. June 24, 2014 1:02 AM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      Marking this as implemented in the next release.
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