Issue: Multilingual articles setup, completely independent from forum language

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December 22, 2010 6:45 AM

Alfa1

Distinguished Member

Multilingual articles setup, completely independent from forum language

Please add functionality to interlink an article with the same topic other languages by adding a flag symbol of the language. Similar to how e-commerce sites can show a set of flags, to depict that the same content is available in different languages.

This should be completely independent from forum language. i.e. all articles should be visible to all readers, not matter what forum language they use.

It should also be possible to browse articles per language. Each language could be considered as a different division/department/category.

Issue Details

Issue Number 2171

Issue Type Feature

Project VaultWiki 3.x Series

Category Language / Phrasing

Status Closed (Merged)

Priority 4 - Warnings / Script Errors

Suggested Version 4.0.0 Alpha 1

Implemented Version (none)

Milestone VaultWiki 4.0.0 Alpha 1

Software DependencyAny

Votes for this feature 2

Votes against this feature 0

Attachments 0

Assigned Users (none)

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March 24, 2011 9:33 PM

Alan_SP

Regular Member

Just to add my comment, what's bothering me and why in present (3.0.11b002) VaultWiki:

I'm having site in Croatian, most people use Croatian and similar languages (Serbian, Bosnian, Slovenian...) and Croatian language is the site's default one.

I personally use English language for commands as I find them more usable in AdminCP and all around. Of course, when I write in forum, CMS etc I write in Croatian. I just saw that creating article in Croatian changed my forum language to Croatian. And if I wrote article in English, that would change language to all users' site language to English. For now, I'll manually change language to English, but I'd really like to see this independent, language the article is written in and language I see commands.

I see it's accepted, but just wanted to say it anyway, as it is very important to me and I want you make it right for me too.

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April 3, 2011 1:26 AM

Alan_SP

Regular Member

I just noticed, auto links also depend on language settings and if you look your forum in different language then wiki article is in, you won't see any auto links. I hope this is also fixed...

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April 3, 2011 2:08 AM

pegasus

VaultWiki Team

Since article language won't be dependent on forum language, we won't be able to filter the article list based on the session language. Also, in order to enable two-way lookups, eliminate namespaces, and allow for article-level URL customization, we had to make language independent from the article's URL as well.

This has the side effect of not being able to determine what language the article is without fetching the article itself. And this means that the complete article list must always be available for auto-linking, regardless of language.

However, if the article's character set and the forum character set don't match, some characters (and titles) will not match because the character codes differ between sets.

This is a long way of saying VaultWiki 4 will have the issue "fixed".

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April 3, 2011 1:54 PM

Alan_SP

Regular Member

Excellent, thanks. I really like auto linking, it's fantastic, extremely useful.

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April 3, 2011 5:26 PM
basketmen

Junior Member
Originally Posted by pegasus

Since article language won't be dependent on forum language, we won't be able to filter the article list based on the session language. Also, in order to enable two-way lookups, eliminate namespaces, and allow for article-level URL customization, we had to make language independent from the article's URL as well.

This has the side effect of not being able to determine what language the article is without fetching the article itself. And this means that the complete article list must always be available for auto-linking, regardless of language.

However, if the article's character set and the forum character set don't match, some characters (and titles) will not match because the character codes differ between sets.

This is a long way of saying VaultWiki 4 will have the issue "fixed".

pardon me to join the thread. actually maybe there is another way for this, i will share the hack if i can make it, but i need help too, to get information the right code that VW use

so it is by using if languageid conditional in a plugin, to replace word become link, inspired by this hack Word Replacement. But you need to enter each words manually, that you want to become link, like example below, its no big deal for me

for example you have an article page in english (languageid = 1)
so we create new plugin like this hack Word Replacement, and just add if conditional for the language id, and change this code post['message'] (for forum post) into what VW code use (for wiki article post)

Code:

if(LANGUAGEID == 1) { $word = array( 'google', 'yahoo' ); $link = array( '<a href="http://mydomain.com/wiki/google">google</a>', '<a href="http://mydomain.com/wiki/yahoo">yahoo</a>' ); $this->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $this->post['message']); }

So only wiki article with languageid = 1 that will replaced the words into link, other wiki article with other languageid are not linked. For wiki article in other language we can create new plugin again just repeat above step

i think this can be working, i want to try it. So pegasus, can you let me know what is excatly the code for wiki article post to put above? this is the code for forum post : post['message'], what is the code for wiki article post?
please let me know if i am not clearly to tell what i mean
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April 3, 2011 7:35 PM

pegasus

VaultWiki Team

$post['message']

What you describe is already the way it's done. It's not perfect and is not the way it will be done in version 4, because languages won't be tied to the article route... Sacrificing flexibility in one area for flexibility pretty much everywhere else.

Also the code you posted doesn't take into consideration that the terms might appear inside other BB-Codes or HTML. If the matches appear in a bad place, it can create broken HTML and leave vulnerabilities for attackers to exploit on your site, as long as they have knowledge of what words trigger replacements. Just writing this post I have already thought of 1 way to inject Javascript onto your site. If this is exactly how the mod works I recommend uninstalling it.

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April 4, 2011 12:41 AM

basketmen

Junior Member

Originally Posted by pegasus

$post['message']

What you describe is already the way it's done. It's not perfect and is not the way it will be done in version 4, because languages won't be tied to the article route... Sacrificing flexibility in one area for flexibility pretty much everywhere else.

Also the code you posted doesn't take into consideration that the terms might appear inside other BB-Codes or HTML. If the matches appear in a bad place, it can create broken HTML and leave vulnerabilities for attackers to exploit on your site, as long as they have knowledge of what words trigger replacements. Just writing this post I have already thought of 1 way to inject Javascript onto your site. If this is exactly how the mod works I recommend uninstalling it.

- so VW article post are using this code too $post['message'] ?

- this mod same like admincp >> Styles & Templates >> Replacement Variable Manager, only its weaker only replacing in post message.
Many people install this mod (34 install), and similar mod vBaffiliate Links (113 install), no security problem reported from those threads, and 2 vb staffs are posted in those thread too http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showp...2&postcount=23 http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showp...3&postcount=39 , but i will be careful too and get second opinion too

if you can please just answer the first question above, at least this if conditional should be work right, including wrap VW autolinks plugin in wiki article pages

if(LANGUAGEID == 1)
{

}

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April 4, 2011 3:36 AM
pegasus

VaultWiki Team
Yes, VW uses $post['message'] but I see no reason to add your own plugin to make language-filtered auto-links, since VaultWiki does this already... and VaultWiki won't put the links if there's already a link on the word (the mods will). Like if you have "BB-Code" as a link-word and it appears like this:

Code:

<a href="http://www.example.com/BB-Code">Some BB-Code</a>

The mods you mentioned replace it with this:

Code:

<a href="http://www.example.com/<a href="http://www.bbcode.com">BB-Code</a>">Some <a href="http://www.bbcode.com">BB-Code</a></a>

And it seems you are right this doesn't work as a "security hole", it just spits out garbage if you try to use it. Just make sure you always use " in your replacement tags around the href attribute value, or it will become a hole.
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October 8, 2011 5:04 AM
basketmen

Junior Member
Originally Posted by basketmen

pardon me to join the thread. actually maybe there is another way for this, i will share the hack if i can make it, but i need help too, to get information the right code that VW use

so it is by using if languageid conditional in a plugin, to replace word become link, inspired by this hack Word Replacement. But you need to enter each words manually, that you want to become link, like example below, its no big deal for me

for example you have an article page in english (languageid = 1)
so we create new plugin like this hack Word Replacement, and just add if conditional for the language id, and change this code post['message'] (for forum post) into what VW code use (for wiki article post)

Code:

if(LANGUAGEID == 1) { $word = array( 'google', 'yahoo' ); $link = array( '<a href="http://mydomain.com/wiki/google">google</a>', '<a href="http://mydomain.com/wiki/yahoo">yahoo</a>' ); $this->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $this->post['message']); }

So only wiki article with languageid = 1 that will replaced the words into link, other wiki article with other languageid are not linked. For wiki article in other language we can create new plugin again just repeat above step

i think this can be working, i want to try it. So pegasus, can you let me know what is excatly the code for wiki article post to put above? this is the code for forum post : post['message'], what is the code for wiki article post?
please let me know if i am not clearly to tell what i mean

i am sorry for replying old thread, i am still cant make this, this mod will be useful, only replacing text in language page that we want, or manual replacing text that we want, beside autolinks, i am prefer using this mod better than autolinks btw
if you can help i will send $14.98 that usually for Upgrade Service

this is the only plugin

Code:

if(LANGUAGEID == 1) { $word = array( 'google', 'yahoo' ); $link = array( '<a href="http://mydomain.com/wiki/google">google</a>', '<a href="http://mydomain.com/wiki/yahoo">yahoo</a>' ); $this->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $this->post['message']); }

its works in forum post, the text are not replaced, using hook postbit_display_complete

but still not working in wiki article page, and using vault_article_complete hook, gets this error

Code:

Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in /home/username/public_html/vault/tab/article.php(712) : eval()'d code on line 11

i already tried to change this line

Code:

$this->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $this->post['message']);

with these line below, changing the $this with other variable, but still not working, the text are not replaced, please help how is that line should be to work in wiki article page

Code:

$post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $post['message']); $post[message] = str_replace($word, $link, $post[message]); $post->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $post->post['message']); $post->post[message] = str_replace($word, $link, $post->post[message]); $postid->post[message] = str_replace($word, $link, $postid->post[message]); $postid->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $postid->post['message']); $post_message->post[message] = str_replace($word, $link, $post_message->post[message]); $post_message->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $post_message->post['message']); $post_message_$post[postid]$post[id_suff]->post['message'] = str_replace($word, $link, $post_message_$post[postid]$post[id_suff]->post['message']);
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October 8, 2011 5:19 AM
pegasus

VaultWiki Team
Since you need to modify the post message before it's created, and you need to do it in object context. Use the hook vault_postbit_complete and apply the replacements to:

Code:

$this->post['message']

Also use hook vault_postbit_broken, and apply the replacements to:

Code:

$messagebit
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October 16, 2011 6:52 AM

pegasus

VaultWiki Team

Closing as merge to: https://www.vaultwiki.org/issues/2499/

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October 17, 2011 12:19 AM

Alfa1

Distinguished Member

This issue is the main attraction for VW4 for me. I much need to have a function to post translations of wikis. For example: if you have a wiki about bengal cats in English, that wiki would have flag icons for other languages. Clicking on those icons would bring the user to the German, French, Spanish translation of that article. (or whatever languages the admin has defined).

Issue 2499 does not seem to describe this function.

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