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    Issue: Reputation for Wiki Contributions

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    1. issueid=1737 June 24, 2010 7:47 AM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      Reputation for Wiki Contributions

      Users can give each other reputation for their forum posts, but it would make wiki usage more rewarding if users could also be given reputation for their new articles and edits.
    Issue Details
    Issue Number 1737
    Issue Type Feature
    Project VaultWiki 4.x Series
    Category Editing Pages
    Status Implemented
    Priority 7 - Minor Features / Enhancements
    Suggested Version 4.0.0 Alpha 5
    Implemented Version 4.0.0
    Milestone VaultWiki 4.0 Gold
    Software DependencyvBulletin 4.x
    License TypePaid
    Votes for this feature 4
    Votes against this feature 0
    Attachments 0
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    1. August 19, 2014 2:44 PM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      I understand what you mean and its indeed an issue that the original post attracted donations. Apologies for that.

      The purpose of reputation for wiki edits is to reward wiki contributors for their contribution.
      Reputation for wiki edits is not an optimal solution, but already awesome to have. Its not optimal because not many users will rate edits. Most users never visit the edits page. Which means that most wiki editors still do not get rewarded for their effort. On my site it will be a moderators task to rate wiki edits, to resolve this problem.

      Automatic rewarding of reputation is superior in that sense.

      Trophy points and likes/reputation are two different systems. Trophy points are similar to vbexperience in vbulletin.
      With automatic rewarding of reputation users will still be able to rate article quality. So the number of points is still dependent upon the rating that readers give.

      You are correct that a rating of a specific edit is a true evaluation of the authors work. But because of the complexity of wiki, it is very rare that readers actually look at the exact content of a wiki edit. For forum posts they just need to read the post which is part of the normal user experience. But for wiki edits the user experience only includes reading the article. It does not include going to the edits page, then selecting different edits to see, then comparing the 2 texts and evaluating the difference. This is why 99.9% of the users will not rate edits in their normal wiki user experience. It will need to be done by members assigned to rating edits.

      As said that's already great to have and I would be very happy to be able to offer this to my users. But I would also like to be able to turn it off when automatic reputation rewards arrive in VW4.1, as I see that as a far superior system which will make the wiki edits rating function redundant for my site.
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    2. September 24, 2014 1:28 PM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      Did this function make it into RC3 as anticipated?
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    3. September 24, 2014 1:33 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      No, RC 3 ended up being mainly a bugfix release (the focus was getting the bug count below 5).

      See:
      Code:
      https://www.vaultwiki.org/projectsearch.php?do=dosearch&projectid[]=10&addressedversion[]=211
      Sorry it's not a link, but vB doesn't seem to like posting a URL with [] in it.
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    4. September 24, 2014 2:03 PM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      I see. Can we expect it in RC4?
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    5. December 2, 2014 12:32 AM
      situationerdk
      Interested in this also.
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    6. December 26, 2014 10:07 AM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      Reputation for edits is implemented in the next release.
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    7. January 1, 2015 10:28 PM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      To give reputation the user has to go to:
      article → view → history of edits → revision → controls → reputation → approve/dissaprove → comment → add reputation
      can this be simplified? How about placing it in the revision and causing a overlay to appear?
      XenForo users will need a 'like' link there.
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    8. January 1, 2015 11:15 PM
      pegasus pegasus is offline
      VaultWiki Team
      XenForo likes are handled by a separate "likes" system which is not part of the special reputation system we had to custom-make for vBulletin. While most content that can receive reputation should also be likable on XenForo, we have to handle and track them separately because of the design differences.

      I'm aware that the reputation function is very buried on vBulletin. There are some things we can do to improve revision "controls" in general but they would require some refactoring of the history view since the same controls are reused in places where icons/overlays would not work well at all. Doing this was out-of-scope of this particular issue, which had boiled down to just adding a link to the custom reputation script with the appropriate revision ID.
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    9. January 2, 2015 5:51 AM
      Alfa1 Alfa1 is offline
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      I think a refactor of revisions is important, because I don't think members will find their way to the new reputation function. There is enough space available on the page for a reputation or like function.

      Likes is a very important function for XF. While my site uses reputation, most XF boards revolve around likes. I think it would be wise to add it to VW and make VW more attractive to XF webmasters.
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